tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post2974321570013394905..comments2011-09-04T15:30:17.949+08:00Tulang Besihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08770865110328319255noreply@blogger.comBlogger109125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-45735087027151311612009-02-19T14:46:00.000+08:002009-02-19T14:46:00.000+08:00My question is:<BR/><BR/>If homosexuality is not a mental disorder, then why are there gays and lesbians able to change their sexual orientation into normality?Tulang Besihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08770865110328319255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-33703174413134856562009-02-19T14:44:00.000+08:002009-02-19T14:44:00.000+08:00<I><BR/>This is another western propoganda! Somehow gay activists are able to convince 477,000. Yes, 477,000 psychiatrists, medical officers, all of them. I do not know how they do it. It is mentioned that the APA was pressured. But curiously ALL THESE bodies support them too! DAMN!<BR/><BR/>American Academy of Pediatrics<BR/>American Association of School Administrators<BR/>American Counseling Association<BR/>American Federation of Teachers<BR/>American Psychological Association<BR/>American School Counselor Association<BR/>American School Health Association<BR/>Interfaith Alliance Foundation<BR/>National Association of School Psychologists<BR/>National Association of Secondary School Principals<BR/>National Association of SocialWorkers<BR/>National Education Association<BR/>School SocialWork Association of America<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Here's an excerpt from APA about Homosexuality<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles..."</B>Tulang Besihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08770865110328319255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-44871576137339165232009-02-19T14:36:00.000+08:002009-02-19T14:36:00.000+08:00<I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, really. Forget all these latest evidences of the bloody gejala homosex and pondans:<BR/><BR/>http://www3.telus.net/des1/Links.html<BR/><BR/>http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/164/7/1122<BR/><BR/>http://www.scq.ubc.ca/genetics-of-sex-and-gender-identity/<BR/><BR/>http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034<BR/><BR/>http://www.ftminfo.net/genetics.html<BR/><BR/>http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/klu/bege/2002/00000032/00000004/00377472<BR/><BR/>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071107170741.htm<BR/><BR/>http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&amp;nsref=news10_head_dn14146<BR/><BR/>http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002282<BR/><BR/>http://www.smh.com.au/news/specials/science/scientists-find-a-gene-for-the-transsexual-experience/2008/10/26/1224955854977.html</I><BR/><BR/>Yet none of these studies are even remotely conclusive.<BR/><BR/>Just because the number of studies are more than one doesn't prove anything.<BR/><BR/>So far, all studies point to one fact: there is no conclusive evidence linking man's biology to their homosexual nature.Tulang Besihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08770865110328319255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-31403930872027939612008-12-10T16:42:00.000+08:002008-12-10T16:42:00.000+08:00It has been scientifically proved that pengkid is destine to be as they are because of their chromosome/gene factor.It is not entirely their fault for being gay. Dont simply condemn them or force them to be what they are not.<BR/><BR/>As a person,we should all have freedom to wear what ever we want.<BR/>In this case, maybe gov could give strict order to have all the women to wear women clothings during working hour.<BR/>This way, pengkids will at least wear women cloths without any objections just like school rules having girls to wear girls uniforms to school.<BR/><BR/>So that they are free to wear their normal leisure clothing during their own time. <BR/><BR/>I think this is more reasonable action than forcing people to not wear men clothing at all. this doesn't make any sense since women clothing nowadays too has a lot of pants and shirts.<BR/><BR/>We should not push them (muslim pengkid) to change or we might face another unsolved issue like 'Murtad' which concern me most.<BR/><BR/>it is afraid that they will take chance to convert to other religion and becoming murtad just to escape from this issue.<BR/><BR/>Nauzzubillah...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-6397377884986886972008-11-23T11:48:00.000+08:002008-11-23T11:48:00.000+08:00Its forbids anyway but one think i could amazed about the bright side of gay/nyah/pengkid/-they are great person. As you all can see nowadays quite a numbers of student in university/college is gay /lesbian and most of the gaymen holding high post in organisation, head of department ,professional line and they are bunch great guys. Their capabilty just like others.I just curious how they survive in their life facing a lot of troubles surroundings them when people for sure dont know how to quit attacking their personality but yet their succeded in career and educations .Hope i could gain their strenght to achieve my goals in career,education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-24323845904538662662008-11-22T19:57:00.000+08:002008-11-22T19:57:00.000+08:00Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> www.queerme.com/deut__225.htm under column 'Embraced by God'. No comment . But enjoy readings about their debate reason why Deuteronomy 22:5 isn’t a valid teaching for Christians.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The bottom line: Jesus welcomes everyone into his family—even people who come to realize their gender doesn’t match their genitalia. As we have seen, there are many reasons why Deuteronomy 22:5 isn’t a valid teaching for Christians. While some will respond to my attacks by defending the absolute perfection of Scripture, I believe it is much more important to defend the absolute perfection of God. The bottom line is that the writer of Deuteronomy has presented us with a portrait of God that is utterly blasphemous—a god that is absolutely unworthy of our worship. From the example of Old Testament heroes like Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-Nego—who courageously risked their lives by refusing to worship false gods—let us gain the courage to increasingly confront the false god(s) of conservative Christianity.<BR/>- Chris D Kramer<BR/><BR/>Yes, no comment<BR/><BR/>Matthew<BR/>________________________________________<BR/>Chapter 7<BR/>15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.<BR/>16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?<BR/>17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.<BR/>18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.<BR/>19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.<BR/>20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.<BR/>21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.<BR/>22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?<BR/>23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-85934859532010905422008-11-22T11:23:00.000+08:002008-11-22T11:23:00.000+08:00www.queerme.com/deut__225.htm under column 'Embraced by God'. No comment . But enjoy readings about their debate reason why Deuteronomy 22:5 isn’t a valid teaching for Christians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-36271812300128628732008-11-22T07:40:00.000+08:002008-11-22T07:40:00.000+08:00Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> nak tanya korang,<BR/><BR/> Aku ada kakak.. tapi sayangnya dia pengkid..apa yg nak aku buat sekarang? <BR/><BR/>Rajin solat mengadu pada Allah mohon kakak sentiasa berada di jalan yang di redhai tuhan. Jangan cepat berputus asa.<BR/><BR/>Peribadi seorang Muslim<BR/><BR/>"Seorang Muslim yang sebenar ia lah orang yang terselamat dari bencana lidahnya dan tangannya orang-orang Muslim yang lain. Dan orang yang berhijrah itu ia lah orang yang meninggalkan apa yang di larang Allah melakukannya."<BR/>- Imam Bukhari<BR/><BR/>Rasulullah s.a.w.bersabda:<BR/><BR/>"Sesunguhnya dunia ini adalah perhiasan, dan tiadalah sesuatu dari perhiasan dunia itu yang lebih baik daripada seorang isteri yang saleh."<BR/><BR/>Tafsir Al-Khazin:<BR/><BR/>1.Nafsu ammarah-bissu' ia iu nafsu yan menyeret diri seseorang kepada mencintai yang jahat, mempengaruhinya sehingga ia tunduk di bawah kuasanya, lalu ia pun melakukan perkara jahat itu.<BR/><BR/>2. Nafsu lawwammah ia itu nafsu yang mencela kelakuan seseorang yang melakukan kejahatan, menyedarkannya akan dirinya yang telah berdosa itu, sehingga orang itu akhirnya menyesali dirinya, lalu ia pun bertaubat dari dosa itu.<BR/><BR/>3. Nafsu mutmainnah ia itu nafsu yang sentiasa dalam ketenangan kerana terselamat dari segala kejahatan dan dosa atau pun nafsu yang telah bertaubat dari dosanya sehingga ia menjadi bersih suci semula saperti sediakala.<BR/><BR/>Berkata Abu Darda' r.a. bahawasanya Nabi s.a.w. bersabda: Allah telah berfirman:<BR/><BR/>"Kalau hambaKu mendatangiKu dengan dosa sepenuh bumi, tetapi ia tiada mensyirikkan Aku dengan sesuatu pun, niscaya Aku akan menyambutnya dengan maghfirah (keampunan)sepenuh itu pula."<BR/><BR/>- (Riwayat Thabarani)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-30820611671567631992008-11-21T20:44:00.000+08:002008-11-21T20:44:00.000+08:00Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> For those quoted deutronomy verses from bible old testament esp 22:5, may i ask u, are u christian ? may i suggest u to view 'http://www.queerme.com/deut__225.htm.<BR/>------------------------<BR/><BR/>..will do. Thank you for your kind suggestion. No, im not a Xtian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-70915740461757531202008-11-21T18:35:00.000+08:002008-11-21T18:35:00.000+08:00ini macam orang jahil berkata kata. Hukum semua adalah daripada Allah dan kita sebagai hambanya wajib mematuhinya segala suruhanNya dan menjauhi segala laranganNya - bagus statement ni..orang jahil berkata2. Tapi rasanya dia bukanlah support kakak dia berkelakuan macam tu.tu pasal dia tanya kat semua ' apa aku nak buat?<BR/><BR/>bila baca kat perenggan bawah kan ke orang ni kata dia berdoa moga kakak dia berubah..Dan tak pulak membantah kalau masyarakat terus berkata..<BR/><BR/>kekadang jgn emo sgt.. kita bukan berada kat tempat dia..dia mungkin dalam dilema sebAbnya keluarga. Bersyukurlah sebab kita ni sempurna dan keluarga kita pun sempurna tak di uji dengan adanya salah sorang ahli keluraga macam ni. Kalau tak, kita pun mati kutu dibuatnya..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-19596236821492409462008-11-21T13:54:00.000+08:002008-11-21T13:54:00.000+08:00Aku ada kakak.. tapi sayangnya dia pengkid..apa yg nak aku buat sekarang? nak pulaukan dia ?nak putus hubungan adik beradik dengan dia? nak kutuk dia ? nak ingatkan dia selalu 'kau tak kan diakui umat muhamad ' ? <BR/><BR/>ini macam orang jahil berkata kata. Hukum semua adalah daripada Allah dan kita sebagai hambanya wajib mematuhinya segala suruhanNya dan menjauhi segala laranganNya.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-42922746396553212202008-11-21T13:50:00.000+08:002008-11-21T13:50:00.000+08:00Aku ada kakak.. tapi sayangnya dia pengkid..apa yg nak aku buat sekarang? nak pulaukan dia ?nak putus hubungan adik beradik dengan dia? nak kutuk dia ? nak ingatkan dia selalu 'kau tak kan diakui umat muhamad ' ? <BR/><BR/>ini macam orang jahil berkata kata. Hukum semua adalah daripada Allah dan kita sebagai hambanya wajib mematuhinya segala suruhanNya dan menjauhi segala laranganNya.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-36308672688518102832008-11-21T13:37:00.000+08:002008-11-21T13:37:00.000+08:00nak tanya korang,<BR/><BR/>Aku ada kakak.. tapi sayangnya dia pengkid..apa yg nak aku buat sekarang? nak pulaukan dia ?nak putus hubungan adik beradik dengan dia? nak kutuk dia ? nak ingatkan dia selalu 'kau tak kan diakui umat muhamad ' ? <BR/><BR/>sayang seribu kali sayang dia pengkid.. tapi aku tetap hormat dia dan sayang dia sebab dia lah yg byk berkorban untuk aku menanggung persekolahan aku sampai ipt dan menanggung mak aku .Nak harapkan abang2 aku yg lain,semuanya ada komitmen dan tak kurang gak menyusahkan mak aku dengan komitmen mereka..<BR/><BR/>Bila isu ni keluar,kakak aku dapat tempias yg paling hebat dengan orang sekeliling..mulalah kata kami sekeluarga tak tau didik dia..pendek kata semuanya buruklah. Tapi perlu ke aku melatah dengan orang sekeliling hanya sebab kakak aku pengkid ?<BR/><BR/>Itu pun rasanya kakak aku dah buat sehabis baik tak terlibat dengan gejala2 tak sihat walaupun dia pengkid.tak pulak aku nampak dia mengusung perempuan sana sini. jadi adil ke aku nak demand dia untuk buat itu ini dan pulaukan dia kalau dia tak ikut cakap aku untuk berubah ? perlu ke aku lupakan nilai kebaikan dia yg berkorban segala2nya hanya untuk aku dan keluarga walau dia tak dapat apa yg dia nak dlm hidup dia sebabnya dia utamakan persekolahan aku hanya sebab dia pengkid ? <BR/><BR/>Pengkid ni pun macam perempuan lain gak. hati lembut.silapnya hanya pada penampilan mereka yg akan buatkan orang menghukum mereka tak ingat hukum tuhan.. <BR/><BR/>Susah aku nak cakap..kalau aku membela kakak aku nanti orang kata aku menegak kan maksiat , kalau aku berkeras nanti terjejas hubungan keluarga. Apa perasaan korang jika korang seorang pengkid yg sepanjang hidup korang berbakti pada keluarga tetapi balasannya penghinaan dari ahli keluarga korang hanya disebabkan korang pengkid ? tolong lah jgn cakap yg korang tak rasa apa2 dalam hati..<BR/><BR/>Aku sentiasa berdoa moga kakak aku diberi kekuatan untuk berubah.Kalau masyarakat nak terus menghukum orang macam kakak aku,aku pun tak boleh nak buat apa lah. Biarlah masa dan keadaan menentukanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-85472096337558431982008-11-21T09:24:00.000+08:002008-11-21T09:24:00.000+08:00It looks like that 'pengkid' have many supporters here. <BR/><BR/>Well done. Long live 'pengkid'.<BR/><BR/>Hmm..next. who's daughter or sister want to be next my close partner...<BR/>Anybody here? especially support 'pengkid'...<BR/><BR/>Can you offer your daughter or sister?..Come on, sporting la...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-29714006192906566112008-11-20T22:12:00.000+08:002008-11-20T22:12:00.000+08:00Dear TB,<BR/><BR/>Your words says ' I for one have been blessed with twin daughters and I would not want my daughters to grow up and become “pengkik”. I want them to be a well balanced woman and mother. Therefore, I shall make sure that my twin daughters do not grow up and get their mind poisoned by the likes of Ivy Josiah and friends.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Dont be so certain and proud you could raise your twin daughter perfectly well balanced women and mother.You wouldnt know what is going happen in coming next 20 years.<BR/><BR/>Every parents would love to have perfect daughter like you do but unfortunately some of them could have pengkid as a daughter.They never predict this could happened to them.Can we consider their fail in raising their child ?<BR/><BR/>some of the pengkid really working hard to support their parents,family, sibblings for education eventhough they are not perfect as a women, do we still have to punish,label them as bad just because of their boyish appearance without consider their good deeds,sacrifices to the family ? do you all really consider your neighbour feelings when you dont know how to quit insulting them just because of having daughter in boyish appearance ?<BR/><BR/>Agreed lesbian and homo is forbids in the religion but we have to control ourselves from blatantly condamn people. Being straight is not the ticket for us to condamn people .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-83540893496923374772008-11-20T20:56:00.000+08:002008-11-20T20:56:00.000+08:00This is just my point of view.All religions forbids their followers practicing such way of life regardless islam , christian and judaism..But if we want to force pengkid to change their life style by making certain rules to enforce it, it just invite other problems in human social life.They might change the cloth and appearance by wearing ladies attire,but what happen if in deep inside their 'feelings' remain the same? they can pretend to the public they are 'normal' and at the same time they could have an affair with womens and no one could ever predict the real 'situation'. Just give them some space and time to change rather we non stop insulting them through open discussion. To force people is not the good method coz at the end of the day they just pretend in front of us to be normal person. Do you all want this scenario happen ? I always believe any good deeds must come sincerely come from our heart.No one shall be forced of what they dont want to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-76189464412814183882008-11-20T20:31:00.000+08:002008-11-20T20:31:00.000+08:00For those quoted deutronomy verses from bible old testament esp 22:5, may i ask u, are u christian ? may i suggest u to view 'http://www.queerme.com/deut__225.htm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-20863539952279186052008-11-20T14:41:00.000+08:002008-11-20T14:41:00.000+08:00Dear all,<BR/><BR/>I don't think Ivy Josiah friends are advocating a gender confused society. She is saying that this fatwa is yet another in the long series that is ill-thought out.<BR/><BR/>To me this fatwa is downright sinister. I have out my argument on malaysiakini (Here is the link<BR/>http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/93001<BR/><BR/>and here is an excerpt<BR/><BR/>While this edict will no doubt fall on many deaf ears, many more will allow it to govern their conscience. The most susceptible are those at the cusp of womanhood ie,. those seeking to find themselves in an increasingly complex and globalised world. If a woman dare not experiment with alternative haircut and attire, will she dare explore her personality?<BR/><BR/>If she is afraid that her raised voice towards her male colleagues will diminish her femininity, will she ever learn to be assertive in the wider world? If she is anxious about her physicality, will she have the energy to fight the attrition to her independent soul?<BR/><BR/>This recent fatwa is pernicious in that it leaves some section of the Muslim population fearful lest their actions offend the belief they hold dear.Gumption and imagination are qualities essential to prosper in this brave new world - not forever forfeiting one’s heart and mind to the exigencies of fellow men however exalted their positions are.<BR/><BR/>Ida BakarIda Bakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-22019545566615421352008-11-20T01:06:00.000+08:002008-11-20T01:06:00.000+08:00Orang melayu ni serba boleh, sampai Tuhan pun nak dicabar! Melayu Malaya BOLEH! Tahniah. Wonder what next????? Shame on you so call SISTER IN ISLAM! Sister in ISlam ke sister selam?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-3773803364735261262008-11-18T13:37:00.000+08:002008-11-18T13:37:00.000+08:00Do you all know what is fatwa?...<BR/><BR/>Fatwa is a repeating message that refers to Al-Quran and Hadis. In simple word, it is a reminder/advise to the MUSLIMS.<BR/><BR/>To non-muslim, if you are pitty on 'pengkid', or you have friends of 'pengkid' and you support them. Just say to them, carry on my friend...be a 'pengkid'., cause fatwa is not law, so nothing happend if you ignore the fatwa.<BR/><BR/>The fact is, if u are true muslim, you already know that 'pengkid' is totally disallowed. but to those who stil want to be a 'pengkid'. so be it....at least fatwa reminds you already.<BR/><BR/>CLEAR!....<BR/><BR/>please do understand, 'pengkid' is different from 'tomboy'. Pengkid is similar to gay. So whoever want to be a gay..be it....if you are christian, it's not wrong to be gay/'pengkid', same goes to buddha and hindu....just follow your instinct..be a 'pengkid'. To atheis...well you always want to be anything....gay,lesbian,pengkid or whateverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-85128490222949322952008-11-18T00:39:00.000+08:002008-11-18T00:39:00.000+08:00To the Muslims who are still confuse about their gender, the neither here nor there kinda person, <BR/><BR/>Read this teguran from NIk Aziz and really really put a deep thought on this matter ! KOTA BAHARU: Mursyidul Am Pas Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat mengeluarkan peringatan keras kepada pertubuhan bukan kerajaan (NGO) supaya tidak mempertikaikan keputusan Majlis Fatwa Kebangsaan yang mengharamkan perlakuan wanita menyamai lelaki atau "pengkid".<BR/><BR/>Menteri Besar Kelantan itu turut menyifatkan pihak terbabit cuba melawan perintah Tuhan dan mencabuli asas syariat Islam.<BR/><BR/>"Majlis Fatwa ni keluarkan hukum berlandaskan Al-Quran dan Hadis dan Al-Quran itu datang daripada Allah. Allah yang cipta manusia dan alam dan dia tentukan hukum untuk manusia.<BR/><BR/>"Siapa kita ni sampai nak lawan dia (Allah). Handal sangat kita nak lawan Allah?," katanya kepada pemberita selepas merasmikan pembukaan restoran London Fish Tales di sini hari ini.<BR/><BR/>Beliau mengulas NGO bukan Islam mempertikaikan keputusan Majlis Fatwa Kebangsaan yang mengharamkan perlakuan wanita menyamai lelaki atau "pengkid".<BR/><BR/>Baru-baru ini, NGO tersebut, Katagender dan FoodnotBombs mengadakan demonstrasi di Kuala Lumpur City Centre (KLCC) bagi membantah keputusan majlis itu mengharamkan perlakuan 'pengkid'.<BR/><BR/>Pada 23 Oktober lalu, Muzakarah Jawatankuasa Fatwa Majlis Kebangsaan telah mengeluarkan fatwa mengharamkan perbuatan perempuan yang membuat penampilan seperti lelaki atau "pengkid" kerana gejala tersebut di kalangan remaja perempuan Islam di negara ini semakin membimbangkan.<BR/><BR/>Nik Abdul Aziz berkata beliau meminta mana-mana pihak tanpa mengira NGO Islam atau bukan Islam agar tidak campur tangan mengenai fatwa yang telah dikeluarkan. Malahan beliau kesal dengan orang perempuan Islam yang tidak mengamalkan Islam dalam kehidupan mereka sehingga terlibat dalam gejala pengkid itu. "Mereka merupakan benih. Apabila orang Islam tidak hidup mengikut cara Islam jadi orang bukan Islam mula berani kata depan kita," katanya. BERNAMAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-68405987947620435642008-11-17T22:23:00.000+08:002008-11-17T22:23:00.000+08:00Get This Down. said... <BR/>Gosh, anonymous, you are absolutely correct! Never mind that the deepest Bible commentaries on Deuteronomy 22:5 are actually about forbidding women wearing men's armour to war and men wearing a robe to avoid them going into the tent to rape women. Forget that! We must follow the word of God and the Laws here word by word! No excuses, right?<BR/><BR/>Then we must also follow all these laws in the same book and chapter. Follow one, then follow all!<BR/><BR/>Deuteronomy 12:32 (Holy Bible NIV)<BR/><BR/>“See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it”<BR/><BR/> <BR/> Holy Bible (NKJV)<BR/><BR/>Deuteronomy 20 .. Law Concerning War<BR/> 21 .. Various Laws of Morality<BR/> 22.. Various Laws of Morality<BR/><BR/><BR/> Holy Bible (NIV)<BR/><BR/>Deuteronomy 20 .. Going to War<BR/> 21 .. Attonement for an Unsolved Murder, Marrying a Captive Woman, <BR/> The Right of Firstborn, A Rebellious Son<BR/> 22.. Various Laws<BR/><BR/> Holy Bible – The New American Bible<BR/><BR/>Deuteronomy 20 ..Courage in War<BR/> 21 .. Expiation of Untraced Murder<BR/> 22.. Care for Lost Animals, Various Precepts, Crime against Marriage<BR/><BR/> Good News Bible<BR/><BR/>Deuteronomy 20 ..Concerning War<BR/> 21 .. Concerning Unsolved Murders, Concerning Women Prisoners of <BR/> Wars, Concerning the First Son’s Inheritance, Concerning Disobedient<BR/> Son<BR/> 22.. Various Laws, Laws Concerning Sexual PurityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-31374357845186483862008-11-17T21:51:00.000+08:002008-11-17T21:51:00.000+08:00Dear Azrul<BR/>You are a very wise man indeed. Rational in thinking. This world need people like you to go forward.Mag Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-41212160384192913582008-11-17T21:27:00.000+08:002008-11-17T21:27:00.000+08:00I don't encourage gays, tomboys, lesbians or whatever coz it is unhealthy but I also do not believe is persecuting them. Moreover it is really non of our business. However, if we want to help them, why not advice, counsel or help them using kind methods to come back to the right path instead of using punitive measures? Forcing only lead to underground activities. It will not stop it.Mag Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714589773403512045.post-64106095437290452732008-11-17T15:42:00.000+08:002008-11-17T15:42:00.000+08:00Gosh, anonymous, you are absolutely correct! Never mind that the deepest Bible commentaries on Deuteronomy 22:5 are actually about forbidding women wearing men&#39;s armour to war and men wearing a robe to avoid them going into the tent to rape women. Forget that! We must follow the word of God and the Laws here word by word! No excuses, right?<BR/><BR/>Then we must also follow all these laws in the same book and chapter. Follow one, then follow all!<BR/><BR/>Your house must be equiped with a parapet!<BR/><BR/>Deu 22:8 When you build a new house, make a parapet around your roof so that you may not bring the guilt of bloodshed on your house if someone falls from the roof.<BR/><BR/>Stop wearing your usual office clothing to work!<BR/><BR/>Deu 22:11 Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together.<BR/><BR/>Also:<BR/><BR/>Deu 22:12 Make tassels on the four corners of the cloak you wear.<BR/><BR/>Oh ya, about &quot;abominations&quot;. Remember to kill all girls who are not virgins on their wedding night. If not, ask the parents to prove the virginity (just forget the crap about hymens breaking when cycling. It is all a western liberal agenda, right TB?)<BR/><BR/>13 If a man takes a wife and, after lying with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, &quot;I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,&quot; 15 then the girl&#39;s father and mother shall bring proof that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. 16 The girl&#39;s father will say to the elders, &quot;I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, &#39;I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.&#39; But here is the proof of my daughter&#39;s virginity.&quot; Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver [b] and give them to the girl&#39;s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives. <BR/> 20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl&#39;s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father&#39;s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father&#39;s house. You must purge the evil from among you.<BR/><BR/>KILL ALL ADULTERERS, EVEN THOUGH THE MEN ARE AT FAULT!<BR/><BR/>Deu 22:22 If a man is found sleeping with another man&#39;s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman MUST DIE. You must purge the evil from Israel.<BR/><BR/>YEAH, WAY TO GO ANONYMOUS!<BR/><BR/>Just forget that Christians are asked to reflect on their own sins and not other&#39;s. Forget that the only buggers who follow these rules while looking and judging people are the Pharisees. Even forget that Christ have long hair and wears a cloak that resembles a dress like the Roman&#39;s toga (probably one of the reasons why Pharisees killed Christ Jesus.)<BR/><BR/>YEAH! Forget even Christ! Follow the rule you quoted, then all the rules. Remember to kill those bloody adulterers &#39;kay?<BR/><BR/>Oh ya, while you are on it. While you get rid of those abominations called &quot;homosexuals&quot; by using Leviticus, please kill all those children who disobey their parents. It is also written in the Bible!<BR/><BR/>Leviticus 20:9<BR/><BR/>9 &quot; &#39;If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head.<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>I SUPPORT YOU TULANG BESI!<BR/><BR/>Yeah, really. Forget all these latest evidences of the bloody gejala homosex and pondans:<BR/><BR/>http://www3.telus.net/des1/Links.html<BR/><BR/>http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/164/7/1122<BR/><BR/>http://www.scq.ubc.ca/genetics-of-sex-and-gender-identity/<BR/><BR/>http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034<BR/><BR/>http://www.ftminfo.net/genetics.html<BR/><BR/>http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/klu/bege/2002/00000032/00000004/00377472<BR/><BR/>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071107170741.htm<BR/><BR/>http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&amp;nsref=news10_head_dn14146<BR/><BR/>http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002282<BR/><BR/>http://www.smh.com.au/news/specials/science/scientists-find-a-gene-for-the-transsexual-experience/2008/10/26/1224955854977.html<BR/><BR/>Like you said TB!<BR/><BR/>&quot;Don&#39;t give in to modern excuses like being gay is biological, because it is not.&quot;<BR/><BR/>&quot;Our sexual inclination is perfect when we were created by God. But somehow along the way, the wrong enviroment has shaped it our of whack.&quot;<BR/><BR/>Yes, I believe you. I do not believe in science or facts. I believe you because you say so. Like you, I do not need all the facts in the world because I can always cut off all conversation by saying God says so. Yes! The earth is flat because God says so. And you do not need to state any facts, even though authorative peer previewed evidences, not only from the West, but also Europe and Australia said you are wrong. You are right because you are right!<BR/><BR/>http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications/justthefacts.pdf<BR/><BR/>This is another western propoganda! Somehow gay activists are able to convince 477,000. Yes, 477,000 psychiatrists, medical officers, all of them. I do not know how they do it. It is mentioned that the APA was pressured. But curiously ALL THESE bodies support them too! DAMN!<BR/><BR/>American Academy of Pediatrics<BR/>American Association of School Administrators<BR/>American Counseling Association<BR/>American Federation of Teachers<BR/>American Psychological Association<BR/>American School Counselor Association<BR/>American School Health Association<BR/>Interfaith Alliance Foundation<BR/>National Association of School Psychologists<BR/>National Association of Secondary School Principals<BR/>National Association of SocialWorkers<BR/>National Education Association<BR/>School SocialWork Association of America<BR/><BR/>Do not worry, Tulang Besi. I support you. Yeah, those are not facts. What you say are hard facts. It is all about environment. Yea, distant child and mother pseudo-theory overules science. Gender confusion is real, biological evidence is not. Even though we do not have proof and only say it, we always can hide behind Our God! Yes! Insya-allah!<BR/><BR/>You do not believe in the current medical consensus, right! Just say so, Tulang Besi! I am proud of you!Get This Down.noreply@blogger.com