Comments on Malaysia Waves: Muzakarah: Another Perspective

Muzakarah is like seduction which takes place behi...

2008-07-30T11:05:00.000+08:00

Muzakarah is like seduction which takes place behind closed doors. Muqabalah is like flirtation that takes place in the open.

BTW, my Pakistani friend says taht Muzakarah and Muqabalah are Sanskrit words that is used in normal conversation in both Hindi as well as Urdu.

Maybe Nik Aziz might be disappointed by this revelation. Maybe he might bring out some other words which is purely arabic.

was just flipping thru Bernama TV (Astro 502), and...

2008-07-27T07:54:00.000+08:00

was just flipping thru Bernama TV (Astro 502), and surprise2, who appeared in all his splendor and godlike ampuing by the UMNO mouthpieces in Bernama?

Hadi in all his arrogance, pomposity and swagger (must be swaggering bcoz he just got screwed in his arse whether he knows it or not, seems to be smiling in delight as far as I can see).

For those of you who insist on calling a sodomite politician, a PAS sellout like Ezam AND A LIAR, a TUAN "GURU", I congratulate you for allowing your children to learn from a liar with a main belakang mindset but worse, that it is okay to screw others in the arse even as you are being screwed in the arse by UMNO Mugabes and Hadi.

Dear Cruzeiro;
I have a good nose for such things (as in Anwar's and RPK's arrest recently) and my nose is telling me that Hadi will split PAS to join UMNO, whether PAS members like it or not. Whether the PAS members will feel heated outrage like the Non Muslims who voted PAS feels, time will tell.

If Tok Guru Aziz (may the blessings of Allah be upon him) and PAS muslims DO NOT ACT, the UMNO Mugabes and PAS Hadists sodomites will win but what a TRAGEDY it will be for PAS, PR and Malaysians. The good work of Tok Guru Aziz rebuilding since the fall in Kelantan, the sincere PAS muslims martyred and other Malaysians who voted PAS in will be truly buggered in the arse.

PAS members, stop telling us NON PAS Malaysians what your freaking views are and how pious the words and the rituals of your President are; show Malaysians we are wrong AND ACT NOW. I have had enough of your freaking apologist mantra to 'Trust Tok Guru Aziz and Trust PAS', I trust Tok Guru Aziz but can PAS lead by Hadi be trusted?

When words and actions differ, trust action. A pious Muslim's beliefs, words and actions should never differ, if you see a snake (berlidah cabang), you are suppose to call it a snake. I see a snake but yet many are telling me it is a TUAN GURU. No wonder Tuan Melayu TDM(ugabe) is still gloating daily how easy it is for him to fool, blame, rape and sodomise the Malays, focus the Malays on the Inuls, the Ellas, Ketuanan Melayu and ignore the corrupt, the stooges, the rapists and the sodomists. Better still, TDM say make them your Tuans.

May Allah bless the pious who act and may HELL be waiting for the treacherous betrayers (and their apologists) of Rakyat Malaysia's vote of trust in Tok Guru Aziz and PAS!!!

Dear Tulang Besi,

Thanks for the scoop and ...

2008-07-25T20:48:00.000+08:00

Dear Tulang Besi,

Thanks for the scoop and analysis. It now shows that personal interests of some "down and out to be" politicians suddenly got an elixir of lazarus. These opportunists should be brought to justice and exiled rather than tarnish the brotherhood that has been forged between non-Muslim voters for Pas candidates and vice versa. May the almighty God forgive them of their greed and evil motives. Hidup Rakyat!!!!

UMNO sure go down hard to hell......

Malays...

2008-07-25T20:40:00.000+08:00

UMNO sure go down hard to hell......

Malays will survive without UMNO..even glorify more.....

Trust me...this country can go down the drain it still on UMNO and their balless coronies in BN

Dear Tulang Besi

Please keep us posted on w...

2008-07-25T19:13:00.000+08:00

Dear Tulang Besi

Please keep us posted on what is being done to these four people: Ust. Hadi, Nasa, Mustafa and Hassan. So PAS Central has accepted the apology of Hadi. What about the rest? What penalty or disciplinary action is being taken? Yes, by all means kick them out but follow party protocols. Expose them for who they are.

These people are bigger pekong. These are traitors and power crazies! They cannot hide behind the fascade of wanting to promote Malay unity. Malay unity is a chimera in this age of the internet.

Muzakarah, a blessing in disguise indeed. Thanks f...

2008-07-25T18:02:00.000+08:00

Muzakarah, a blessing in disguise indeed. Thanks for your article, Tualng Besi.

Allah's rahmat and barakah for ALL Malaysians.

Satu perspektif yang sangat menarik. Sekiranya ini...

2008-07-25T12:20:00.000+08:00

Satu perspektif yang sangat menarik. Sekiranya ini adalah kebenaran, maka harapan Malaysia kepada sistem 2 parti akan berkubur untuk satu jangkamasa yang lama.

Politik ini memang unik, kalaulah pasal kuasa, semuanya akan jadi satu kemungkinan.

Manusia akan hancur disebabkan oleh 3 TA. TAHTA, HARTA & WANITA

Your pleading seeks to comfort the disgruntled vot...

2008-07-25T11:44:00.000+08:00

Your pleading seeks to comfort the disgruntled voters who voted Pas for the very first time in their voting life. Now that the dust has settled, we still see the moles and sheisters in Pas. After the Syura is there more comfort coming? The resolve in judgement and the speed of administration is clearly needed to appease the growing anger of the Rakyat.

Ribuan terima kasih SdrTulang Besi.
I'm non-Ma...

2008-07-25T11:06:00.000+08:00

Ribuan terima kasih SdrTulang Besi.
I'm non-Malay - but always seen the true Malays as 'bersopan, amanah dan insaf'.
It is those whom are afflicted with 'kejangkitan Umno' who are in league with Syaitan.
These racists, bigots, corrupters etc. are destroying our beloved nation. They are evil feudalists who use the 'divide and rule' mentality - just like the colonial masters. They are attempting to do the same to Pas!
It is truly fortunate for the nation that we have wise friends like you and Tuan Guru Nik Aziz et al. to help us find the way to the light, no matter what deceptions syaitan Umno try to do.
Again ribuan terima kasih, from the bottom of our hearts. Menyalak-er

As a Chinese, I'll support PAS bcos PAS don't thre...

2008-07-25T10:22:00.000+08:00

As a Chinese, I'll support PAS bcos PAS don't threaten to massacre the Chinese wan. UMNO leh everytime go to Golok wan, sure ppl don't support.

NOW, NOW !

Since Mustafa Ali is a MOLE and ...

2008-07-25T10:19:00.000+08:00

NOW, NOW !

Since Mustafa Ali is a MOLE and Hassan Ali is a collaborator, both exposed ?

IS the PAS high command still sleeping ?

How come old traitors within their midst not expunged ?

I have many friends in PAS who are open to discuss...

2008-07-25T10:03:00.000+08:00

I have many friends in PAS who are open to discussion on race and religion. I trust them more than I trust UMNO.
My family and my extended family voted for PAS on March 8 and imagine our disappointment and disgust with the secret meetings. We felt cheated and betrayed by PAS - a religious based party at that.
I believe what you have written here is true and I also hope PAS will redeem its lost credibility and trusst among the non-Malays. Failure to do so will mean defeat in "multi-racial seats" in future elections.
BUT THE MOLES ARE STILL IN THE PARTY and I an waiting to see what happens to them.
I would suggest that Nasarrudin, Hassan and Mustapha join UMNO and leave PAS to advance to prosperous and united Malaysia in Pakatan.

Memang betullah cakap-cakap orang UMNO yang segeli...

2008-07-25T10:02:00.000+08:00

Memang betullah cakap-cakap orang UMNO yang segelintir pemimpin PAS gilakan KUASA dan WANG RINGGIT. Syukurlah PAS masih ada Tok Guru NIK dan lain lain lagi yang tidak terikut ikut dengan dakyah kotor UMNO. Logik juga kalau Tok Guru Hadi Letak Jawatan kerana menerima nasihat dari golongan tertentu tanpa mendapatkan kesahihian dari pelbagai sumber.

Uncle Tulang Besi,
Thanks for identifying all t...

2008-07-25T10:00:00.000+08:00

Uncle Tulang Besi,
Thanks for identifying all these thing especially for the benefit of the non-Malays.
The moles did all these dirty things with the aim of alienation all the non-Malay supp[orters of PAS. Now that Tok Guru and the PAS President are able to see eye to eye on the issue, it should be time to get rid of these UMNO dogs from PAS, so that the purity and sincerity of of the PAS objective is not subject to doubt. I respect you as a person, what race you are is not important to me, it is the colour of your heart and not the colour of your skin that matters.

the only time for Pas and Umno to join force is wh...

2008-07-25T09:54:00.000+08:00

the only time for Pas and Umno to join force is when Umno joins pas on pas terms. period.

ambo

Dear Tulang Besi
Satu artikel yg jelas tanpa be...

2008-07-24T19:11:00.000+08:00

Dear Tulang Besi
Satu artikel yg jelas tanpa berselindung.Jelas juga ahli politik yg tak bermaruah tak kira dimana mereka berada dalam PAs atau UMNO.Bohong adalah bread n butter mereka.Bagi seorang ustaz bohong munkin bohong sunat atau tipu helah perang.
Saya setuju ini adalah proses pembersihan parti PAS dari anasir opportunist.Nasarudin munkin nasib baik bertanding di kubu PAS tapi munkin satu penggal sahaja.

Damage already done. Especially amongst grassroot ...

2008-07-24T19:01:00.000+08:00

Damage already done. Especially amongst grassroot PAS members and Non-Muslims who voted for PAS.

Pak Lah wins this one. PAS must come up with some substantive action to re-affirm its commitment to Pakatan.

Firing Nash & Co won't help. Time for PAS to muzakarah with others. Question for PAS leadership : WHO IS YOUR BIGGEST COMPETITOR FOR MUSLIM VOTERS? WHO LOVES TO STEAL PAS HARD-GOTTEN FISHES WHILE PAS IS LOOKING AWAY? Tulang Besi, please enlighten them.

Answer that and you'll find out who you should really muzakarah with in the first place. NASH, MUSTAFA ALI, HASAN ALI = MORON + MABUK KUASA.

IT is an enlightenment Damange has been done. Se...

2008-07-24T14:20:00.000+08:00

IT is an enlightenment Damange has been done. Secret meetings behind backroom in Islam is never encouraged. Greedy leaders for power are in an Islamic party shows
what good the party is. My votes may have to wait not until otherwise, PAS behaves that they are a good party for the good of Islam and can be trusted

We were all working within the sys
tem then and...

2008-07-24T14:15:00.000+08:00

We were all working within the sys
tem then and the system was the bee
end. They were the most powerful making anybody hedging their bets on them with only a few daring to go against the flow. The status
quo would always be the rusty weig
ing scale or the rickety sailboat
prior to that excepting only the 6
9 polls whence every party contest
ed joined the ruling coalition in the aftermath. Onl
y DAP was wise enough to decline.
PAS, true to the betraying instin
cts of the bee end was ignominio
niously discarded a few years la
ter. Since then voting statistics quite consistently shown Malays to be 50% divided with the majority of the chinese and indians stil
l favoring the status quo. 1999
was the nascent watershed, the anwar effect being the catalyst but the non malay votes did not really follow the trend then. Malaysia's chinese and indian denominations hesitated against the tides of discontent brough
t about by the epic first ever
albeit truly pathetic soodoomee melodrama notwithstanding the equally pitiable sight of the proverbial mattress being hauled up and down each and everyday. 2004 was the year of the new man at the helm promising newer and better methods for everyone under his stewardship.Alas nothing came to be if only much worse was the outcome. 2008 was everybody's winning point and truly ecstatic, next to anyone woke up. In furtherance all of us became optimistic subsequently energized to strive for a better Malaysia. So lets not harped on the past. Should any hiccups comes our way lets all treat it as what it is-
if only mere hiccups. Lets just follow the most vigoros and electrifying amongst us that being our young men and women. Because its pretty much their Malaysia as much as ours. And we are left with whats little bonus years there is. long live Malaysia!..long live Pakatan Rakyat!

besi kersani

Dear Pak Tulang Besi,

I am a Chinese and af...

2008-07-24T14:04:00.000+08:00

Dear Pak Tulang Besi,

I am a Chinese and after reading your article I felt more comfortable with Pas. For your information, during the last election our family voted for PAS. If you ask me whether we would have do it in the past maybe 4 or 5 years ago, I can safely tell you that we would not.
This shows to you that PAS's effort in changing the non-Muslim mindset had been successful in recent years. I still remember your slogan "PAS FOR ALL". And you actually go down to the ground to act on this new belief - helping Non-Muslims to build their own temples etc.
If PAS change their word and commitment now i.e. joining UMNO for some glorious positions, I believe we Chinese will be very very disappointed - the reason is that we will feel we have been all sold out.
For your information, people like us do not believe in any racial supremacy. What is so good of being racial supreme when you do not have sufficient rice to eat. In fact all we want is to see all Malaysians especially our fellow Muslim Malay citizens to be able to stand on their own feet, have more confidence and to be able to compete effectively with everybody. Malaysia is small country in this world. The competition is not between Malaysian Malays and with Malaysian Chinese or Malaysian Indians. The real competition is between Malaysians and the people of other countries - the Singaporeans, the Chinese, the Taiwanese, the Indians, the Europeans etc.
I believe if PAS really wants to help the Malays, PAS must help them to learn up new skills and new knowledge and not divert their attention to an illusionary vision of being the most powerful race.

Apa apa pun....

Parti keparat yg paling tak...

2008-07-24T11:29:00.000+08:00

Apa apa pun....

Parti keparat yg paling tak leh kito cayo dalam perkongsian politik ialah AMENO....

Depan kita manis bahasa manis dari gulo....pijak semut tak matii...!!.

Belakang kito...semua dia belasah...dari permit teksi..permit pasir..permit AP permit rumah murah..permit impot pekerja asing..dan sampai BORANG PERMIT pun dia nak kontrol...

Itu lah mentaliti sakit yg ada pada kebanyakan para pemimpin cawangan.. bahagian.. negeri serta negara yg berjaya lahirkan oleh party keparat nie...

bagi ahli2 parti musuh yg ingin bersubahat dan berpaling tadahhh..dgn ameno untuk menjatuhkan parti asal mereka ...maka adalah amat dialu alukan oleh amenoo.....

contoh hidup dah banyakk...
salah satu dua tiga ialah...

Bekas pemimpin PKR..dulu bersumpah tak masuk ameno..berezam nak hapuskan rasuah...tapi sekaramggg..nie memang bagsarrt no. 1...taik hidung masin betul nie..

bekas Pemimpin PAS..ustaz apa tah nama dia..sekarang Pengerusi YADIM..nama dia..dekat dekat macamm..Ustaz NIAMAKAHIE..

Bekas pemimpin umno.Semangat46..berjasa..berjaya..macam macam parti dia masuk...sekarang dia tak de parti ..tapi menang sebab PAS tak bertanding kat situ...
nie lagi satu ..bangsarrt ..talam berapa muka pun wa tak tahu lah...loncat sana loncat sini..yg penting poket ada masyukkk..

so..para pemimpin PAS lu orang kene sedarr....kalau lu kawan ngan bangsarttt..lama lama lu pun boleh jadi macam bangsarttt jugakk..

Gua sokong pendirian tegas Tok Guru serta lain lain Pemimpin PAs yg tak setuju berkawan baik ngan ameno nie...

lu orang nanti kene tikan ddari belakang "wa cakap lu.."

Sekian pendapat saya

Prince

List of racial discriminations in Malaysia, practi...

2008-07-24T11:08:00.000+08:00

List of racial discriminations in Malaysia, practiced by government as well as government agencies. This list is an open secret. Best verified by government itself because it got the statistics.

This list is not in the order of importance, that means the first one on the list is not the most important and the last one on the list does not mean least important.

This list is a common knowledge to a lot of Malaysians, especially those non-malays (Chinese, Ibans, Kadazans, Orang Asli, Tamils, etc) who were being racially discriminated.

Figures in this list are estimates only and please take it as a guide only. Government of Malaysia has the most correct figures. Is government of Malaysia too ashamed to publish their racist acts by publishing racial statistics?

This list cover a period of about 50 years since independence (1957).

List of racial discriminations (Malaysia):

(1) Out of all the 5 major banks, only one bank is multi-racial, the rest are controlled by malays

(2) 99% of Petronas directors are malays

(3) 3% of Petronas employees are Chinese

(4) 99% of 2000 Petronas gasoline stations are owned by malays

(5) 100% all contractors working under Petronas projects must be bumis status

(6) 0% of non-malay staffs is legally required in malay companies. But there must be 30% malay staffs in Chinese companies

(7) 5% of all new intake for government army, nurses, polices, is non-malays

(8) 2% is the present Chinese staff in Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF), drop from 40% in 1960

(9) 2% is the percentage of non-malay government servants in Putrajaya. But malays make up 98%

(10) 7% is the percentage of Chinese government servants in the whole government (in 2004), drop from 30% in 1960

(11) 95% of government contracts are given to malays

(12) 100% all business licensees are controlled by malay government e.g. Approved Permits, Taxi Permits, etc

(13) 80% of the Chinese rice millers in Kedah had to be sold to malay controlled Bernas in 1980s. Otherwise, life is make difficult for Chinese rice millers

(14) 100 big companies set up, managed and owned by Chinese Malaysians were taken over by government, and later managed by malays since 1970s e.g. MISC, UMBC, UTC, etc

(15) At least 10 Chinese owned bus companies (throughout Malaysia, throughout 40 years) had to be sold to MARA or other malay transport companies due to rejection by malay authority to Chinese application for bus routes and rejection for their application for new buses

(16) 2 Chinese taxi drivers were barred from driving in Johor Larkin bus station. There are about 30 taxi drivers and 3 are Chinese in October 2004. Spoiling taxi club properties was the reason given

(17) 0 non-malays are allowed to get shop lots in the new Muar bus station (November 2004)

(18) 8000 billion ringgit is the total amount the government channeled to malay pockets through ASB, ASN, MARA, privatisation of government agencies, Tabung Haji etc, through NEP over 34 years period

(19) 48 Chinese primary schools closed down since 1968 - 2000

(20) 144 Indian primary schools closed down since 1968 - 2000

(21) 2637 malay primary schools built since 1968 - 2000

(22) 2.5% is government budget for Chinese primary schools. Indian schools got only 1%, malay schools got 96.5%

(23) While a Chinese parent with RM1000 salary (monthly) cannot get school-text-book-loan, a malay parent with RM2000 salary is eligible

(24) 10 all public universities vice chancellors are malays

(25) 5% - the government universities lecturers of non-malay origins had been reduced from about 70% in 1965 to only 5% in 2004

(26) Only 5% is given to non-malays for government scholarships over 40 years

(27) 0 Chinese or Indians were sent to Japan and Korea under "Look East Policy"

(28) 128 STPM Chinese top students could not get into the course that they aspired e.g. Medicine (in 2004)

(29) 10% place for non-bumi students for MARA science schools beginning from year 2003, but only 7% are filled. Before that it was 100% malays

(30) 50 cases whereby Chinese and Indian Malaysians, are beaten up in the National Service program in 2003

(31) 25% is Malaysian Chinese population in 2004, drop from 45% in 1957

(32) 7% is the present Malaysian Indians population (2004), a drop from 12% in 1957

(33) 2 million Chinese Malaysians had emigrated to overseas since 40 years ago

(34) 0.5 million Indian Malaysians had emigrated to overseas

(35) 3 million Indonesians had migrated into Malaysia and became Malaysian citizens with bumis status

(36) 600000 are the Chinese and Indian Malaysians with red IC and were rejected repeatedly when applying for citizenship for 40 years. Perhaps 60% of them had already passed away due to old age. This shows racism of how easily Indonesians got their citizenship compare with the Chinese and Indians

(37) 5% - 15% discount for a malay to buy a house, regardless whether the malay is poor or rich

(38) 2% is what Chinese new villages get compare with 98% of what malay villages got for rural development budget

(39) 50 road names (at least) had been changed from Chinese names to other names

(40) 1 Dewan Gan Boon Leong (in Malacca) was altered to other name (e.g. Dewan Serbaguna or sort) when it was being officially used for a few days. Government try to shun Chinese names. This racism happened in around year 2000 or sort

(41) 0 churches/temples were built for each housing estate. But every housing estate got at least one mosque/surau built

(42) 3000 mosques/surau were built in all housing estates throughout Malaysia since 1970. No churches, no temples are required to be built in housing estates

(43) 1 Catholic church in Shah Alam took 20 years to apply to be constructed. But told by malay authority that it must look like a factory and not look like a church. Still not yet approved in 2004

(44) 1 publishing of Bible in Iban language banned (in 2002)

(45) 0 of the government TV stations (RTM1, RTM2, TV3) are directors of non-malay origins

(46) 30 government produced TV dramas and films always showed that the bad guys had Chinese face, and the good guys had malay face. You can check it out since 1970s. Recent years, this tendency becomes less

(47) 10 times, at least, malays (especially Umno) had threatened to massacre the Chinese Malaysians using May 13 since 1969

(48) 20 constituencies won by DAP would not get funds from the government to develop. Or these Chinese majority constituencies would be the last to be developed

(49) 100 constituencies (parliaments and states) had been racistly re-delineated so Chinese voters were diluted that Chinese candidates, particularly DAP candidates lost in election since 1970s

(50) Only 3 out of 12 human rights items are ratified by Malaysia government since 1960

(51) 0 - elimination of all forms of racial discrimination (UN Human Rights) is not ratified by Malaysia government since 1960s

(52) 20 reported cases whereby malay ambulance attendances treated Chinese patients inhumanely, and malay government hospital staffs purposely delay attending to Chinese patients in 2003. Unreported cases may be 200

(53) 50 cases each year whereby Chinese, especially Chinese youths being beaten up by malay youths in public places. We may check at police reports provided the police took the report, otherwise there will be no record

(54) 20 cases every year whereby Chinese drivers who accidentally knocked down malays were seriously assaulted or killed by malays

(55) 12% is what ASB/ASN got per annum while banks fixed deposit is only about 3.5% per annum

There are hundreds more racial discriminations in Malaysia to add to this list of "colossal" racism. It is hope that the victims of racism will write in to expose racism.

Malaysia government should publish statistics showing how much malays had benefited from the "special rights" of malays and at the same time tell the statistics of how much other minority races are being discriminated.

Hence, the responsibility lies in the Malaysia government itself to publish unadulterated statistics of racial discrimination.

If the Malaysia government hides the statistics above, then there must be some evil doings, immoral doings, shameful doings and sinful doings, like the Nazi, going on onto the non-malays of Malaysia.

Civilized nation, unlike evil Nazi, must publish statistics to show its treatment on its minority races. This is what Malaysia must publish……….

We are asking for the publication of the statistics showing how "implementation of special rights of malays" had inflicted colossal racial discrimination onto non-malays.

Sdr. Pengarang,

Mustafa Ali pandai memainka...

2008-07-24T10:50:00.000+08:00

Sdr. Pengarang,

Mustafa Ali pandai memainkan perananya. Dia gunakan Haji Hadi sebagai bentingnya. Apa-apa yang dia buat dia guna nama Tok Guru. Jadi orang akan serba salah nak lawan.

Masa PAS perintah Terangganu dulu, walaupun Haji Hadi jadi menteri besar tetapi yang berkuasa ialah Mustafa Ali.

Jadi orang-orang PAS kena hati-hati lain kali.

Dear Tulang Besi,

Great article. Very insig...

2008-07-24T10:02:00.000+08:00

Dear Tulang Besi,

Great article. Very insightful info on this whole shenanigan.
Can't wait to read your next posting.

RATM

Thank you for this great blog! It's a must visit f...

2008-07-24T09:49:00.000+08:00

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Comments on Malaysia Waves: Muzakarah: Another Perspective

Muzakarah is like seduction which takes place behi...

was just flipping thru Bernama TV (Astro 502), and...

Dear Tulang Besi,Thanks for the scoop and ...

UMNO sure go down hard to hell......Malays...

Dear Tulang BesiPlease keep us posted on w...